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Quote: Originally Posted by Dana_15 If he was that competent, he should have put it in neutral. He obviously wasn't competent if he had no idea how to shut off the car he was in control of That's convenient logic - anyone who has ever had an accident "obviously wasn't competent". Suddenly, every 16 year old kid with a month behind the wheel has a better claim to competency than most professional race car...

Quote: Originally Posted by chakis24 what i said is accurate. i used to have taz floor mats in my truck. and they were flat, smooth rubber on the back. on a carpeted floor. and guess what? they slid, and guess what else? they never made the pedal get stuck. also, my brother has chevy floor mats in his truck. and guess what? same thing. not all floor mats are created equal. http://www.autoanything.com/floor-ma...15A2690A1.aspx...

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Quote: Originally Posted by PhishPhood This is not accurate. You need to do more research. You need to see the actual mats that were used in this case and how badly the dealer put the driver and his family in danger. On top of that there was a Recall and specific warning going back to 2007 which the dealer ignored. Actually, you are the wrong one. People use various types of aftermarket mats ALL THE TIME in all sorts of different cars, even...

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I wouldn't say Toyota builds junk....they are just like most car companies. Besides that GM built junk for decades and only started closing the gap as of late. One thing is for sure is resale value. Hondas,Toyotas.....they all hold value while GM drops severely......quick too. My 09 HHR/SS in 5 years will be worth crap when its time to trade in or sell.Take a look on Craigslist or any used car section and see how much 1995-2001...

Quote: Originally Posted by PhishPhood This is not accurate. You need to do more research. You need to see the actual mats that were used in this case and how badly the dealer put the driver and his family in danger. On top of that there was a Recall and specific warning going back to 2007 which the dealer ignored. what i said is accurate. i used to have taz floor mats in my truck. and they were flat, smooth rubber on the back. on a carpeted...

Quote: Originally Posted by plane <shakes head sadly> It's becoming increasingly apparent that we've lost an entire generation to morbid stupidity. Hahaha! Boy was that funny! LoL

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