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smallchange wrote: pendrachken wrote: I never said it was "free", but unfortunately too many people like Stallman are trying to equate "free" == better. As I said, that is sometimes the case, but sometimes not. Often times when you hear a open source software person preaching they make it sound like JUST because it is open source it is better, no matter what, and ONLY because it is proprietary it is worse....

pendrachken wrote: Please stop trolling in my thread. If you can post something constructive, do so. I really don't want to have to report your posts but I will if I have to. My first post was a perfectly valid two line comment. I wasn't trying to criticise you or say anything bad about your choice. I own a Nokia device which runs a Debian based OS so my comment was based on some personal experience. But you went batshit nutso...

You know what I think? This whole thing is stupid. Gnome started out with the GNU ideas in mind, and now they want to fork? Why can't they all quit fucking whining over petty things, get over themselves, and continue to work on quality software? There are enough DE's: KDE, GNOME, Xfce, LXDE, etc....We don't need a fucking fork of a major DE. I don't like GNOME anyway, but this still boggles my mind...I just can't see...

AdrianTM wrote: widz wrote: Who knows? Todays people - always looking for the things the don't have yet (please not to be interpret as dismissal of human progress and evolution as a whole) - like that three-less-seconds boot is really that important or the 2 sec loading of the office suit, instead of the crawling 3-4 secs is going to cure mankind of poverty and economic crisis. It might... time is money, 5 million of people saving 3...

I hear that all the time....I just never see any bootcharts that show it...

the question is: where do you draw the line: is it ok to use a free OS, but add flashplayer non-free and VirtualBox-PUEL? like i do, btw, and i also activated the non-free sources. With the according horse-power between keyboard and chair i would change that. or is it ok to use Windows or Mac, but only add free software? as pointed out before (by others): the only purpose of the GNU project is to "promote" free software,......

Coco wrote: So will any version of google chrome be available from the debian repos? I really want to install chrome but I absolutely refuse to install anything outside the official repos (I'm on squeeze) ! probably never. So no Opera, Skype, or any packages from debian-multimedia.org?

Sorry about this. I'll put a stop to them myself. I never meant to cause any upset or trouble. I think it was just a bit of fun which got out of hand.

And that's related to Debian how? See this about offtopic posts: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17592

At the same time I found Iron a week or two ago I also found this thing Uzbl I still don't really know what it is yet, But I try to play with it once or twice a week. it's in main too