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Eddie, if I had a dollar for every time I've told someone I played drums and they replied something like "You're so lucky. I wish I played an instrument" or "I wish I kept up the piano lessons" I'd be able to buy a meal at a middling restaurant. As Pocket said, it would be a shame to lose the skill. And it doesn't have to be major skills to be worth preserving. I have absolutely rubbish...

Quote: Originally Posted by 44Ronin I don't give two craps about popularity. Music as an art was never about selling records. Me too. I never wanted to "Make It". I just wanted to play.

Quote: Originally Posted by Steamer It's just another common red hearing you hear floating around Michael.......... Nothing comes out out nothing and even if you're going to choose to be a rebel you have to be rebelling against something to begin with to try and create something new from. haha, YES and that is why all these arguments will always fall on their backs in the end; because they're all just language, and they're...

Quote: Originally Posted by Deltadrummer Thanks for that. This really puts it all in perspective. It is the same for Duke as well. His sophistication is a rail against racism. It's amazing how these same issues have long standing implications; they come to have varying meanings over time. Duke was truly amazing. I can't think of another musician that had a career that spanned six decades and was able to continually evolve the entire...

Quote: Originally Posted by Thaard Hahaha. Thread of the year. Six posts and thread of the year! WOW! Nige86, You have made a deep mark around here!

Quote: Originally Posted by Pollyanna Also, is there a jazz equivalent to Ringo? You know, the kind of guy who some people poo-poo for being too simple but others love for his (or her) feel? I would imagine a bunch of the 'names' were unschooled, but a lifetime of gigging compensated just fine..the only guy who claimed to never have had a lesson was BR himself.. A Ringo equivalent... hmmm interesting question, Pol. Blakey kept...

Quote: Originally Posted by Michael McDanial I think the problem is that people are saying that studying the roots of your music = being stuck in the past and that's simply not true. The musicians that I've mentioned like Bird, Diz, and Monk have already proven that it's not true. It's just another common red hearing you hear floating around Michael.......... Nothing comes out out nothing and even if you're going to...

I don't see a debate. It is one of many drum beats and has it's place along with those others.

Quote: Originally Posted by wy yung Can you explain in more detail so I do not misunderstand? When you say "get it", do you mean the conceptual idea of jazz? E.G. Communication. Or do you mean "get it" as in understanding its social commentary? Or do you mean "get it" as understanding that it is a musical stayle that has its base in the blues? etc etc. Okay, I mean "get...

mrchattr...I know you're right and part of this is the friend part of me not being objective. Although, if you heard him play on a night that he didn't have any blatant screw ups...you'd think he was a pretty awesome drummer too. However, in all honesty...his drumming feels like a fancy house built on a foundation of sand...it may seem good as long as the weather is perfect, but even a slight rain can make everything crumble at...