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This definitely bears repeating, folks. Read it with your heart! Contraception is not just about choosing not to be open to life, it is about choosing not to be open to God and placing a barrier between ourselves and God . Like how a condom is a barrier to sperm getting into contact with an egg. Contraception is a condom to a relationship with God and stops not just life developing in the womb, but life developing in our soul so our soul has...

Quote: Originally Posted by Brett Thanks wyatt! lol You're welcome. No worries. You (and I for that matter) are still new Catholics. I'll have to beat sound doctrine into you from time to time. I expect that if I err you all will do the same for me.

I know, the people that come here trying to convert us upsets me. Oh well.

Quote: Originally Posted by CCF_Patty I sense an implication in your comment above that Natural Family Planning must not work if the teacher has nine children. Not exactly. The rhythm method, which was the accepted method of NFP back before I got married, has been so badly discredited that it's no longer taught. Indeed, Fr. Trigilio described it in his Catholicism for Dummies book as, "archaic and undependable." My...

Quote: Originally Posted by Ignatius Riley My comment about it being a venial sin is a direct result of my talk with my priest. I'm not sure that I got an answer, however, with which I fully agree. The ultimate result is this: I can either have a vasectomy or stop having sex with my wife. As I said, I'm straining with this decision. You'll be in my prayers, and hopefully many others as well. But I don't think the choice is...

Brett, Thanks for your answer. I wasn't sure. Unfortunately, sometimes non-Catholics will come onto our forums with the intent of attempting to convert us by arguing against Church teachings, as if their arguments are going to somehow sway us. With that in mind - I figured you either might be one of those, or you might be a Catholic who doesn't fully grasp Church teaching on a not-so-simple subject. I'm glad to hear you are at...

Quote: Originally Posted by Brett I am aware of the sin in contraception, but I still think we have the right to choose. Yes, in the same sense that we have the right to choose ANY sin. God does not force us to obey Him. However, that does not mean that choosing the sin becomes "all right." Sin remains sin, even when it makes your life "easier."

Jeff Thanks for the heads up about the post numbering - no, I have always used linear mode and wasn't aware. That might explain why I've occasionally lost others with whom I've been discussing! Quote: it is far preferable to have some morality (which necessarily must be imposed at times on those with different views I agree. I have perhaps laboured the 'irony' point. As you then say, the question then is 'Whose...

Quote: Originally Posted by Orleans Attorney we went through pre-cana with a family planning teacher who was pregnant with her ninth child. (Not a joke). Hi Orleans Attorney, I sense an implication in your comment above that Natural Family Planning must not work if the teacher has nine children. I want to point out that, while NFP could be used to limit family size, many couples use it to space births but not necessarily limit family size....

Quote: Originally Posted by CCF_Jeff I submit that murder, the deliberate killing of an innocent human being, is always and everywhere wrong. A relativist might disagree. If they think that a greater good can come out of a murder than any evil involved they could see their way to accepting it. In other words they can accept the possibility of the idea that "The ends justify the means." Jeff, It is not only a relativist who...