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Quote: Originally Posted by wwswimming i suggest checking out the tutorials at Area Autodesk. they have some great tutorials - free. http://area.autodesk.com/tutorials they do have good tutorials but I want a video. It is easier for me to understand.

1) Let them as they are 2) If there is any problem with letting them as they are when rendering or animating then change them Law of minimal effort.

Creative Crash have a lot of free character rigs and models you can download at: http://www.creativecrash.com/maya/d...aracter-rigs /c/ Cheers!

If you could post a wireframe of your torso it would help. I'd like to see what your edge flow is like. I'd also start looking at what other people have done with their character models, mostly wireframes, and see how their edge flows create the anatomy you want on your model.

Gosh, that's a difficult question, it highly depends on what needs to be modeled and for what end purpose or goal. Generally nurbs aren't much used in CG and are more popular in design for manufacturing, in particular industrial design and automobile bodywork. Sub-d now holds significant ground, characters are nearly ubiquitously sub-d because it animates quite well and predictably....

Shot in the dark as I'm thoroughly in your boots as far as 3d art. Practice practice practice. Keep checking out tutorials but also mess around with the app you want to use. Try re-creating tutorials you've done with other source materials. If you're into cars or guns you can find threads here for turnarounds. For characters and enviros you could base it off of photos. But do them on ...

Have you tried edge modeling? i've always prefered that approach over box modeling...it gives me a lot more control. Take a look at Steve Jubinville's XSI tutorial for some nice edgeloops: http://www.sjdigitalsculptor.com/3.tutorials.html Of course the joan of arc tutorial is also a great starting point: http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorial...rc/joanmenu. php

i forgot to mention that i know the displacement map Then convert to polygons technique, i would like a more straight foward technique (a little bit like the cinema 4d primitve > relief one) Hope someone has a solution Thanks

did you save the file as a .ztl? and are you in edit mode?

Shot in the dark as I'm thoroughly in your boots as far as 3d art. Practice practice practice. Keep checking out tutorials but also mess around with the app you want to use. Try re-creating tutorials you've done with other source materials. If you're into cars or guns you can find threads here for turnarounds. For characters and enviros you could base it off of photos. But do them on ...

1) Let them as they are 2) If there is any problem with letting them as they are when rendering or animating then change them Law of minimal effort.

Usually what i do is watch a movie on my computer, then when i see a cool scene i press print screen and save the picture. It's really useful when finding ideas and what not. For your ref you could watch the harry potter movie chess scene and take pictures. or google.

did you save the file as a .ztl? and are you in edit mode?

It would help to know what program you are using. Not everyone here is using the same program.

Have you tried edge modeling? i've always prefered that approach over box modeling...it gives me a lot more control. Take a look at Steve Jubinville's XSI tutorial for some nice edgeloops: http://www.sjdigitalsculptor.com/3.tutorials.html Of course the joan of arc tutorial is also a great starting point: http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorial...rc/joanmenu. php

Quote: Originally Posted by wwswimming i suggest checking out the tutorials at Area Autodesk. they have some great tutorials - free. http://area.autodesk.com/tutorials they do have good tutorials but I want a video. It is easier for me to understand.

Is this for a game character or rendered scene? For game character, check out this tutorial: http://www.paultosca.com/varga_hair.html

If you could post a wireframe of your torso it would help. I'd like to see what your edge flow is like. I'd also start looking at what other people have done with their character models, mostly wireframes, and see how their edge flows create the anatomy you want on your model.

Maybe this helps you: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=28297 4