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Quote: Originally Posted by xcrunner Then I would be much, much, happier with his post. What I absolutely detest is acting as though it's definitely all some huge hoax, we're all being systematically lied to, etc etc. One of the problems with True Believers of any kind is that they tend to play fast and loose with the truth, fudging the numbers to suit their belief patterns. That's true regardless of where on the political...

Quote: Originally Posted by MaxBuck But they hardly established any precedent for just how to reverse the course of a federal government that had embarked upon a potentially disastrous course of spend, tax, spend, tax. Sure they did. It's why we aren't British citizens.

Quote: Originally Posted by MaxBuck OK, if we accept that "horse[censored]" is hyperbole, how about "inexact and prone to misinterpretation?" Then I would be much, much, happier with his post. What I absolutely detest is acting as though it's definitely all some huge hoax, we're all being systematically lied to, etc etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by AKAKBUCK Its the third post.... pretty sure I didn't miss anything. And, yeah, maybe bush should have... fine... but... I think there have become intervening bugetary concerns since Bush left office. Of course, maybe bush sholdn't have been a dumbass, fine... but... at what point do you stop blaming the last guy for more money out of Americans pockets. Didn't and doesn't seem to me like the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorubet Only a person ignorant of the core data would deny that. Consider me ig'nant then. Climate change at this time is no different than the looming ice age that was coming in the 80s.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ttown Can we get a vbet on the rich getting to pay for this one? Egads, I sure hope they do. Assuming "rich" is at least 1 more dollar than I make a year.

Quote: Originally Posted by xcrunner Aw shucks, everyone talkin' bout mah post, I feel so darn populah The point I was trying to make is that, in general, every single war fought by the United States should have an accompanying "War Tax". Wars cost money. Trying to hide that fact is highly immoral, in my opinion. I felt like Bush, and the Congress during the past 8 years, was trying to do that--hiding the cost of the...

Quote: Originally Posted by sepia5 Right Definition | Definition of Right at Dictionary.com Value Definition | Definition of Value at Dictionary.com Any other words you need to look up?

A bunch of this is about Al Gore, in light of the 2000 polarization of the country. If Al Gore praised the benefits of swimming in natural water environments, conservatives would quickly start screaming about shark attack statistics, and half of the country would avidly start listening to talk radio hosts rale against the evil of swimming and going to the beach. The earth's climate is heating up. Only a person ignorant of the core data...

Quote: Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks That's exactly what I was suggesting. We don't have any such right. Ask Flocka, he seems to think we have such a right. I know,I just didn't put enough words in. I hate to post before I wake up (SLAP), there now I'm awake. The problem is that if people hear enought times that they have this right or that then they start to believe it. That appears to be the road the public...