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Quote: Originally Posted by annoying_bob ... 2 excellent posts in a row. good job phaggot

Quote: Originally Posted by JBL23 WOW. first post and its of a ****ty ass first cycle. Do your research first of a cycle plan, then ask others for input. That is completely off for a cycle, first one on top of anything. HINT- Test only for 10-12 weeks good first cycle. Then pct I am 6 4 283 do you have any suggestions for a first stack ?

Does anyone have any information on these products? I have a couple friends who swear they work if taken with your cycle and they are both in top shape. I did some reading on the internet and in my old medical books but everything is open ended. There arent very many human studies that provide clear cut information. So any info would be very appreciated...thanks.

tom, if you had to pick one: cypionate or propionate?

change friends, seriously dude. firs cycle? nice! drop the TNT idea!! test.diet.cardio twice daylie. and i tell you a secret, you CAN use dbol on a cut for a kicker if you want. and use winny at the end. for last 5 weeks up to the pct. what are you gong to use your next cycle if you start with tren? tren should be the last one to try, when nothing else is making gains.

Quote: Originally Posted by splbass17 What would you guys consider the shortest amount of time I can run Deca to see results, I'm thinking 8 weeks? I already know the standard, 500 mgs Test E/ WEEK. I was running underdosed mexican crap for 6 weeks @ 500 mgs Test E and when I got a new source I decided to throw Deca in my cycle out of frustration with my wasted time/money. I probably shouldnt have done it, but I already started and Im on...

So ive decided to start a cycle, did my first shot of test on mon, and will be taking it mon/thursday of every week. Im 5'11 230lbs. Been lifting for a while now, id say about 6 yrs, but 3-4 seriously lifting and making progress. I was at 240 when i started out leaned to about 170, so now i wanted to add size and strength so i started bulking. My goal with this cycle it to lean out. I wanna achieve above 200lb lean. Ive had a few friends...