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Quote: Originally Posted by cherryd69 Why woud you want to change that persons mind? As long as you were honest with them from the start about not wanting to have kids, then i dont see a problem. But if you lead that person on or arnt totaly honest, its not evil its just selfish. If I was completely in love with someone and saying "I don't want kids" would mean losing them, only an idiot would admit to not wanting kids....

Quote: Originally Posted by TheArctopus You hate when people find the worst possible scenario and use it to shock people into agree'ing with them or you hate my opinion on activists? I hate people using shock tactics to make people agree with their opinions. It's like "we shouldn't test on animals because it's sick look what they do to them" etc. getting people on their side by spreading ignorance.

curse being below sea level!

this kinda ties in with the cruelty to animals thread tho! the Bear Grylls example is an extreme one, but if it came down to it, and i had to kill to survive id do the same thing!! think bout it, there was that film years ago bout the guys whos plane crashed and they were there for ages........ wtf is it called ? .........Alive!! yea, theres a thought! x

i want children eventualy till then i will stick with what people call pets lol my susbstitute for children

Your post comes across as pro-alarmist.

Quote: Originally Posted by sambalina this kinda ties in with the cruelty to animals thread tho! the Bear Grylls example is an extreme one, but if it came down to it, and i had to kill to survive id do the same thing!! think bout it, there was that film years ago bout the guys whos plane crashed and they were there for ages........ wtf is it called ? .........Alive!! yea, theres a thought! x I'm absolutely agreeing, I'd slaughter an...

so you would try an change that persons mind? therefore making them unhappy? I agree almost everyone else is selfish, but for something like this i would disagree with you. If i could see that the man i loved wanted to have children an i didnt, i would be honest an tell him how i felt. If it meant losing him then so be it. Your going to lose him through dishonesty anyway. Also, i doubt it would work to start with... you both want different...

chicken is normal to you, whereas kangaroo is normal here, you can buy kangaroo steak and burgers in the supermarket

That's not true, animals are all killed by slitting the throat, otherwise they'd be full of blood. They usually stun them with electrodes to the temples first, string them upside down by a chain round the fetlock (ankle to non horsey folks :P) then slit the throat. The general idea is so that they bleed out and with them being alive the blood pumps out quicker than if they were left to "drip dry"