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317s are not worked over heads . . . They are stock factory pieces . . . I'm not trying to educate anyone about CR. But this why you probably haven't seen a STOCK 10:1 LS1 making big numbers with FI like you have seen a 8.5:1 2JZ. That doesn't sound like bench racing to me . . . sounds like pure common sense. The point is, some peeps trying to compare a FACTORY N/A motor to a FACTORY turbo motor. . . including you Quote:...

5.4 DOHC TT ford GT=good find! I though a cummins diesel would have been the best engine to mod without removing the head. TO bad I can't afford that ford tt.

You have a pretty solid trap speed at least. Get your 60ft time and launches down pat and you'll be rockin'. Edit: Kudos to the guy with the .14 RT, also. Whether or not that was more luck than skill, though... >.>

Quote: Originally Posted by rao Well everybody knows the ls engines are weak. Yeah, low-tech "dumb-mestics!"

Quote: Originally Posted by MGregski It's bull. Here's 14 psi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqy1N...eature=related Video isnt of the same car. How is it bull. The car clearly only made 500whp on 30 psi. Its actually not to bad a numbers for going thru and auto matic and 9 inch. but should be a higher. The only thing i liked about that whole car is solid axle rear and tranny.

That should be all you need.. you can stop by a local dealer and have then print something out as well. I can't believe you failed on that lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Def It's really the mild cams that are holding it back stock. Hard to remedy that on a $2009 budget, but... Just a suggestion, but why not get a simple regrind? Don't mess with the profile (unless you put some real thought into it) but simply taking the base circle down would increase your duration and overall lift. You can find an 8 cylinder cam grind job for like $150, you might need to invest in some...

how much do you think an entire swap would cost once its available? 7 grand? bit steep for me, but Im wondering if it would be about that.

Quote: Originally Posted by milKT You're right. I worked at a GM dealership for 12 yrs. That was the road I went DOWN. I would totally understand hating gm after working for them for 12 years. They havn't built a decent car in 10 years and even at that it was slim pickings. But there are a couple things they do very very well. the 3800, the LS engines, and some of there automatic transmissions are world class hardware.

Quote: Originally Posted by Uraharasan I love the 2JZ...it's a wonderful piece of machinery. Whoever built that one needs to take some tuning lessons if he's only making 500 horses with nearly 30lbs of boost, though. It's bull. Here's 14 psi YouTube YouTube