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Quote: Originally Posted by Complainer 'temporary adjustments in the pay bill' is not the same as 'adjustments in pay'. Is it crazy to think that perhaps you might want to participate in a strike or two, hang around a union for a while, walk up and down on a picket, attend a few union branch meetings BEFORE you appoint yourself the expert to decide 'how to do it properly'? I am everyone else couldn't care...

Quote: Originally Posted by S.L.F It is possible to play with figures for hours going by your example Ok first year is 1,000,000 and you have 20,000 % would be 2% Second year is 1,200,000 and you have 25,000 % would be 2.08% Most peoples wages increase by %...what other way is there. The private sector wages % compared to public sector have increased in the last 10 years from 74% compared to 77% today (excluding the 7.5% pension levy which...

Quote: Originally Posted by Markjbloggs I'm everybody else.... Me too, strangely enough.

Quote: Originally Posted by Latrade I think this may be why there was some raised eye brows. It doesn't matter where the shopping happened, it was the fact that it appears quite a few went shopping when it is a strike. Now there's nothing to say they can't, but someone must see how that looks? We're told about the huge support for the strike, how people are scared and fear what the government will do, their anger, etc and...

Quote: Originally Posted by Purple With all due respect (and I mean that) that’s utter nonsense. In euro terms the gap is widening and as a percentage of each other’s pay the gap is widening. As I said already if you earned €1 million one year and got a €200’000 pay increase the next and I earned €20’000 a year and got a €5’000 pay rise I would be getting a bigger percentage pay increase but the gap between our total pay rates would...

Quote: Originally Posted by mathepac But then I heard (on the RTE wireless news) that if the entire CS / PS stayed at home for a day the saving in wages for the Minister for Hardship would be €60m Is this a roughly accurate figure does anyone know?

since when did a 50k salary equate to modest? I thought the industrial average was mid thirties... either I'm getting old and yearning for the good old days when milk was thruppence or somebody is trying to redefince 'modest income'

Quote: Originally Posted by Sunny Well this guy was a great find by Bertie http://www.independent.ie/national-n...h-1265013.html No fair, he's only a Chairman/Board member. You know the rules. This is going to make a great Xmas board game.

Quote: Originally Posted by S.L.F That graph came from the CSO not the flawed ESRI report. Doesn't matter how many times you say it, the ESRI report is not flawed, unless you decide standard economic modelling with built in correction factors is flawed. Interesting summary of the two reports here: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1124/1224259339119.html

Quote: Eeesh enough of the vague consultant-speak already. What staff will be cut? Generally speaking, with all of these agencies, you have a section of staff in the Government Department who's job is to watch over or liaise with the agency. Say for example, the agency has 30 staff and the Dept has 4 staff watching over them. If the Government Department does the job itself, you save the cost of 4 staff. I also have a personal view that...